Sunday, March 18, 2007

Attack Artwork!






Illustrations for the first episode...
Designs for the Cyber Controller...
Sketches of Cryons...
The draft cover for the season finale, THE END OF THE ROAD...

8 comments:

jared "no nickname" hansen said...

Good stuff... not quite how I pictured the Cryons but, hey, it'd do. Also I had no problem with how the Controller looked on TV... maybe I'm just easily pleased?

Youth of Australia said...

Well... I did.

I hated the way he looked, he sounded and he moved.

Trouble is, I can't come up with any better ideas...

Well, there is Robert Holmes' request for the Cybermen to be redesigned so the helmets are transparent and you can see the skull of the dead human inside...

Dunno if you wanna go there or not.

jared "no nickname hansen said...

Well, there is Robert Holmes' request for the Cybermen to be redesigned so the helmets are transparent and you can see the skull of the dead human inside...

Considering that a skull is as unique as a face to the owner, wouldn't it be against the ethos of the Cybermen to display it? And also I don't think the Cybermen would actually have brittle bone skulls when they could easily create steel ones for themselves. And they wouldn't want to display their most vulnerable area so blatantly.

Really, I think it's a case of Holmes going for horror ideas for the feel rather than trying to make any sense of things. It's happened before - several people have noted that there's no reason for Magnus Greel to exclusively kidnap young prostitutes...

New picture is cool, though. I especially like the fact that Lytton's computer is Slave.

Youth of Australia said...

"Considering that a skull is as unique as a face to the owner, wouldn't it be against the ethos of the Cybermen to display it?"
Ah well, checking that fact, I discover a) only the Cyberleader would have the skull face and b) these particular Cybermen were patched up after a war and thus are not in good nick.

"And also I don't think the Cybermen would actually have brittle bone skulls when they could easily create steel ones for themselves. And they wouldn't want to display their most vulnerable area so blatantly."
See above. Good point.

"Really, I think it's a case of Holmes going for horror ideas for the feel rather than trying to make any sense of things. It's happened before - several people have noted that there's no reason for Magnus Greel to exclusively kidnap young prostitutes..."
EXCEPT he's a filthy dirty pervert that hates the idea of strong women who can fight back and is ALSO doing the MO of Jack the Ripper which will confuse the police...

"New picture is cool, though. I especially like the fact that Lytton's computer is Slave."
Lots of Orac, too, but Slave is easier to draw.

You wait, soon I'll have an illustration of someone facing us...

(BTW, I accidentally deleted my rewritten Tenth Planet 4. How fucking ironic is that?)

jared "no nickname" hansen said...

Ah well, checking that fact, I discover a) only the Cyberleader would have the skull face and b) these particular Cybermen were patched up after a war and thus are not in good nick.

Ah, right, the Pissweak-lot in Revenge. Could have worked in that context... maybe.

EXCEPT he's a filthy dirty pervert that hates the idea of strong women who can fight back and is ALSO doing the MO of Jack the Ripper which will confuse the police...

Wow. Could have used you on the "explain the goofs" thread on OG. The bloke who started that only had "it fits the Victorian Gothic theme" to justify it... which really shouldn't have meant much to Greel.

You wait, soon I'll have an illustration of someone facing us...

*GASP*

I should get back into the writing soon, or else you'll have drawn the whole bloody thing...

(BTW, I accidentally deleted my rewritten Tenth Planet 4. How fucking ironic is that?)

It'd be more ironic if Blue Peter had hacked into your PC and nicked it.

Youth of Australia said...

"Ah, right, the Pissweak-lot in Revenge. Could have worked in that context... maybe."
Well, the televised Revenge is written by R Holmes based on GD's ideas...

"Wow. Could have used you on the "explain the goofs" thread on OG. The bloke who started that only had "it fits the Victorian Gothic theme" to justify it... which really shouldn't have meant much to Greel."
I can explain any non-special effect goof.

I just wish I could get paid for it.

"*GASP*
I should get back into the writing soon, or else you'll have drawn the whole bloody thing..."
Well, I have to give you SOME incentive.

I was thinking of illustrating
* the fight with the policemen
* Scott finding the android
* the Doctor being interrogated by Larkhill
* Stratton, et all, meeting the Time Lady
* The Cybermen shooting Ghan

BTW, what happens to the policemen-android after Scott whacks him? Is he taken to DelTech?

Just asking cause the script seems to forget him...

"It'd be more ironic if Blue Peter had hacked into your PC and nicked it."
My old blog still has the regeneration scene on archive...

jared "no nickname" hansen said...

Well, the televised Revenge is written by R Holmes based on GD's ideas...

Oh, right... well, I can forgive him that one...

I can explain any non-special effect goof.

I just wish I could get paid for it.


That would be the life. You should have seen the explanation I had for the Third Doctor seeing the TARDIS on his own scanner in Three Doctors. A triumph!



I was thinking of illustrating
* the fight with the policemen
* Scott finding the android
* the Doctor being interrogated by Larkhill
* Stratton, et all, meeting the Time Lady
* The Cybermen shooting Ghan


They are ALL cool scenes.

At this rate you'll soon have enough material for a Shada-style "animation".

BTW, what happens to the policemen-android after Scott whacks him? Is he taken to DelTech?

It is absorbed by a temporal plot hole.

Just asking cause the script seems to forget him...

Well, that's how you'd put it in Layman's terms... ;)

Seriously, another casualty of the whole "Right, put the foot down I need to reach a cliffhanger in 25 minutes!" attitude I had when writing it.

In honesty they'd have dumped it somewhere in the DelTech warehouse as it's there temporary base, but left it at that to be examined another time. (They have no technical staff on hand - afterall, as far as they're concerned they're just there to catch a bunch of thieves)

"It'd be more ironic if Blue Peter had hacked into your PC and nicked it."

My old blog still has the regeneration scene on archive...

I think you sent me some via email, I'm not sure... I'll definitely have it because I never delete any mail at all...

Youth of Australia said...

"Oh, right... well, I can forgive him that one..."
Not I can. I'm not saying GD's story was Androzani, but it was a better 'retro' story than Revenge was...

"That would be the life. You should have seen the explanation I had for the Third Doctor seeing the TARDIS on his own scanner in Three Doctors. A triumph!"
Easy. The TARDIS scanner reads the absolute value of the cordinates the TARDIS is positioned at - it is not a window, but a TV tuned to a particular spot in time and space.

The Third Doctor has repeatedly taken his ship apart to get it working, and the scanner is slightly out, focussing on the coordinates just across the room.

OR... its looking directly at a mirror...

"They are ALL cool scenes.
At this rate you'll soon have enough material for a Shada-style "animation"."
No way dude, this required far too much effort than doing YOA...

"It is absorbed by a temporal plot hole."
That's a Torchwood excuse.

"Well, that's how you'd put it in Layman's terms... ;)"
Have him dragged to Del Tech, reactivate when Lytton enters the building, then have him blown to smithereens by the Cybermen - like the Raston Warrior robot in reverse.

"Seriously, another casualty of the whole "Right, put the foot down I need to reach a cliffhanger in 25 minutes!" attitude I had when writing it." Oh. Right.

"In honesty they'd have dumped it somewhere in the DelTech warehouse as it's there temporary base, but left it at that to be examined another time. (They have no technical staff on hand - afterall, as far as they're concerned they're just there to catch a bunch of thieves)"
Smart.

"I think you sent me some via email, I'm not sure... I'll definitely have it because I never delete any mail at all..."
Niether do I, and I've spent all day scavenging snippets I threw at Cam, as well as plotting a new story I call... THE CHASE OF PATHOS! Featuring evil parallel universe Doctor and Peri!